1. Sergey Said,

   Hi vj,

   Regarding of “dark cosmic intelligences” and “abductees that have suffered the lasting trauma/discrimination/pain and fear of real dark encounters” – not everything can have so simplistic explanation. John E. Mack, Harvard psichiatrist, professional in his field, who researched hundreds of cases personally, said regarding of painful and disturbing experiences in “alien abductions”:

   “The third dimension of the abduction phenomenon might variously be defined as “consciousness expanding,” “growth engendering,” or “spiritual.” One of the most intense debates in this field occurs around the question of whether these changes in the psyche of the experiencers – no researchers seem to deny that such change, even transformation, does in fact occur in some cases – is an intrinsic aspect of the phenomenon, even its “purpose” or “intention,” or is instead a kind of by-product, reflecting human creativity, resilience, and adaptability in the face of traumatic challenge, or is even the result of alien trickery or deception.

   How, some argue, can a phenomenon that is so clearly traumatic for many people, one that seems to disregard human wishes, feelings, and morality, be spiritual in the sense of coming from a higher source? Some experiences are even left with external and possibly internal organ scarring, as well as lasting conscious and unconscious fears and phobias. Should not spiritual experiences be benign, largely uplifting, or directly enlightening? Yet we know that some experiences, such as life-threatening illnesses, tragic losses, and other personal crises, are often catalysts for profound personal growth and transformation.

   Furthermore, many spiritual disciplines, such as Zen Buddhism and shamanic initiations, include harsh practices that confront the student with disturbing aspects of internal and external reality. Some abduction experiencers describe openings and connections to what they variously describe as the other world, Divine Light, Home, Source, or God, that leave little doubt in the minds of the people who talk with them that something important has occurred. Whitley Strieber had been on a path of transformation through the Gurdjieff Foundation before he became aware of his encounters with the “visitors,” as he calls them. When he told his Gurdjieff teacher about his experiences with the beings, which had initially been intensely terrifying, the teacher said, “Fifteen seconds with those people; fifteen years of meditation. You’re very lucky” (Strieber 1987 and 1996).

   The apparent expansion of psychic or intuitive abilities, a heightened reverence for nature with the feeling of having a life-preserving mission, the collapse of space/time perception, a sense of entering other dimensions of reality or universes, the conviction of possessing a dual human/alien identity, a feeling of connection with all of creation, and related transpersonal experiences – all are such frequent features of the abduction phenomenon that I have come to feel that they are, at least potentially, basic elements of the process. Indeed, the experiences of abductees may bring them to something very much akin to shamanic or mystical states of mind, although for the most part the experiencers remain deeply rooted in everyday “three-dimensional” life, a dilemma that sometimes causes them a good deal of pain.

   Even when abductees initially experience the beings themselves, especially the now well-known gray figures with huge black eyes, as instigators of great fear and trauma, over time they may come to see them as odd spirit guides, closer to the ultimate creative principle or Source than humans, even as emissaries from Divine. Abductees also commonly experience a poignant sense that they have themselves become too separated from Home, Source, or God and will cry and rage against the fact that they have been incarnated or reincarnated back on Earth. As one man said, crying, “I just want go Home. They will get me there. It’s a gate, and I will go through it.” Reluctantly, experiencers will accept that they have made some sort of agreement with the beings or the Creator itself to fulfill a human mission.”

   John E. Mack. Passport to the Cosmos. Chapter I. Abduction: The Next Generation, p.17-18

   Miriam’s reply: wow powerful……… I think I will leave this as it needs to stand on its own to be thought about. Miriam

2. forex robot Said,

   Great post this will really help me.

3. sheza dream walker Said,

   Hi :) I myself have had several different types of experiences with the small greys who I believe may be a form of biological AI , and then there are the taller not so grey beings with round eyes, then there are the ones I called pumpkin heads when I was a small child…short with very large round heads and eyes, then there are the tall blonde radiant ones, and of course other dimensional types..energetic w/o a body.

   Contact has gone on for generations in my family (on my fathers side) my mother had experiences in which I was sometimes present, however, she lost or had several of her children taken by the blue doctors…I have seen them as well( the blue doctors, short, sort of smunched up looking with huge eyes, but only have been experimented on, and had children taken by the greys.(as far as I know)..so my experience of them often starts with an adrenaline reaction, first there is this bluewhite light and then my adrenaline goes up…The taller white greys have brought my not so human looking hybrid offspring to meet me, one daughter and twin sons on different ocassions. My daughter has also seen her sister, but much later. My sons have very little hair, round dark eyes w/o white showing and their heads are very round, they have almost no noses and a tiny mouth..they make sounds like dolphins..My daughter looked more human with very large eyes and little hair… it was explained to me at a later time that they take the children who are too different to be here..too obvious.

   There is so much to tell about them all and my experiences. Which seem to coalesce in me and my family having many extra “skills”…abilities..which are now amping way up….

   I’ve belonged to a support group for abductees, as has my daughter and grand daughter..My mother lived in terror of the visitors…I’ve had mixed experiences..and emotions, the tall blonde ones are always kind and call themselves my family…they show me the future, where they live and apparently My light self lived there before agreeing to incarnate into a human body, many many lifetimes ago for the purpose we are seeing unfold now…

   I could just keep rambling on…but I’ll stop here…Namaste, Dream Walker

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